The National Hockey League and its players' association are back at the bargaining table Thursday, the third straight day the sides have met in an effort to end the current lockout. This is the 54th day of the work stoppage. Owners and players already have bargained for about 13 hours over two days this week at an undisclosed site in New York. Little information about the talks has been disclosed by either side, but Detroit Red Wings' players, skating in suburban Troy, say they are hopeful they'll be playing by Thanksgiving.
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