Michigan GOP Reconsidering Guns for Teachers

By: Alyssa Fenske Email
By: Alyssa Fenske Email

LANSING (WILX)-- Should guns be allowed in schools? Some republican lawmakers think so, and have re-introduced a bill that would allow teachers to carry concealed firearms.

The bill is similar to the one Governor Snyder vetoed in December, but a major difference is this bill would allow concealed carry for school staff and employees only. Each school district would have the power to decide if they would allow guns in their schools.

"It keeps coming up because everyone wants schools be be a safer place for our children," said State Senator (R) Rick Jones.

The bill was introduced by republican Greg MacMaster and has re-ignited an emotional debate over whether guns have a place in schools. But for some the timing isn't right.

"I think a national conversation is happening right now that we are hoping will happen in a short period of time. Let's take a look at what is going to happen there before we make changes on the state level," said State Representative (D) Sam Singh.

The proposed bill is called the Michigan School Protection Act. If it became law, teachers, administrators and employees in gun approved districts would be allowed to carry concealed pistols only after undergoing special training.

Jones says while he is open to the idea of allowing guns in schools, he doesn't agree with teachers being the ones handling the weapons.

"If you're going to have an armed presence it should be at the front door. A police officer, or trained administrator, but the school should be locked down except for one entrance," said Jones.

The bill itself is on shaky ground.

"I heard that the House Speaker doesn't even approve of the bill," said Singh.

"I don't believe this particular bill has a lot of legs," said Jones.

Singh says he will think about putting guns in school when those who run the building actually want them.

"For me it's all about local control, and I want to hear from local communities; our principals our teachers our police chiefs and at this time they are not asking for any changes," said Singh.

Both Singh and Jones believe that the state should be trying to focus on helping those with mental illnesses instead of trying to figure out if guns should be allowed in schools.

A spokesperson for the Lansing School District said the legislation would not be welcomed.


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  • by RT Location: Lansing on Feb 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM
    @ John...VERY eloquently stated, sir. Bravo!
  • by John Location: Lansing on Feb 11, 2013 at 03:16 PM
    This is certainly an emotionally charged issue, of that there is no doubt. Those individuals who would have guns magically disappear really need it that way. Because, when we strip off all the gnashing of teeth and all of the absurd suppositions, and look at societies with guns and societies without, there is little room in which to argue. A prime example of an armed society is in Israel, no matter what else you want to say about their society, their teachers are all armed and nobody walks in and shoot up their kids. By the way, no gangs of students overpower their teachers to get their guns either. There are a few examples of unarmed societies; the UK banned guns entirely and the incidence of home invasions skyrocketed. It turns out the bad guys didn’t turn in their guns so I would have to say they aren’t entirely gun-free. Closer to home, there do exist a good number of isolated, completely gun-free societies; they are called prisons. I hear they are dangerous places; definitely not what most people would consider utopias. So when you start thinking about teachers having guns in classrooms, think. If the unthinkable happens, who is going to be better prepared to protect your children, a trained, armed teacher, or well intentioned, heroically minded individuals who have really neither the equipment nor training?
  • by Name Location: Location on Feb 11, 2013 at 01:16 PM
    Schools hate this law because they went from being tied by law to becoming the enforcers. They could no longer claim we can not do it because it is against the law.
  • by Name Location: Location on Feb 11, 2013 at 01:14 PM
    Ever wonder why large chain gas stations and fast food resturants are robbed so often. They have a policy that the employee can not put them self or others at risk. If it was a mom and pop operation, that robbery is personal and the decision to resist makes them a very unappealing target for thugs. Now if the schools would allow one or two non-uniformed watch dogs in their school, their schools goes from a easy target to one that should not be touched unless you have more than one person willing to work as a team of thugs. Just the thought of someone in the school with a gun would scare more thugs because they fear conflict.
  • by Rick Location: Stockbridge on Feb 11, 2013 at 06:54 AM
    I think that the nay sayers need to actually look at what's being proposed before sounding off with opinions based on irrational emotions rather than fact. The bill being proposed would ALLOW, not require some school personnel to carry or posess concealed arms. It would be UP TO EACH DISTRICT to determine the need/tolerance for such a measure, which makes much more sense than politicians in big cities making law reatricting the desires of rural communities. Tying tha hands of law abiding citizens to protect themselves only serves the criminals. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
  • by Brad Location: s lansing on Feb 11, 2013 at 06:54 AM
    There is one common factor in all but one of Americas mass shootings: They have all occurred in gun free zones. These people are not looking for a fight, they look for easy targets. As long as you have gun free zones you will have these massacres. Teachers should absolutely be allowed to exercise their 2nd amendment rights no matter where they are. They should have to go through some scenario specific training as these situations are way out of the norm. No kids are going to "tackle a teacher & take their guns" that pretty much NEVER happens & is an irrational fear based on a lack of knowledge on the subject. Locked doors only keep the honest out. You can put all the measures, & legislation & laws & rules & bans & whatever you want in place to make yourself feel warm, but the bottom line fact of the matter is none of them is capable of stopping a bad guy bent on doing bad things. An armed citizen can.
  • by Anonymous on Feb 11, 2013 at 05:57 AM
    Funny thing...people want armed guards and people with guns guarding their money at their bank but heaven forbid there's someone with a gun guarding their children. It's another interesting paradigm that the places that are the most vulnerable to violence are the places that so many people object to having measures in place to confront that violence.
  • by Harry Location: Hillsdale on Feb 11, 2013 at 04:22 AM
    Oh now HERE'S a GREAT idea! (NOT). Surround our kids with MORE guns, not fewer. So the next time a misbehaving kid pulls a water pistol with the orange tip marker'ed up black, some trigger-happy teacher will blow him away. I am not against legal gun ownership. But schools need to control their security better, by establishing guidelines like locked doors, buzzers, requiring ID to enter, and experienced security personnel to monitor the doors. NOT armed teachers.
  • by John Location: Pittsford on Feb 10, 2013 at 09:23 PM
    The Governor has a Valid idea . Unlike the Liberal Gun grabbers that have no idea as to how to protect our children . If it is Good enough for The President and Congress to have armed security for their children then why can't the American People ?
  • by Jason Location: Lansing on Feb 10, 2013 at 06:37 PM
    WHY would this legislation not be "welcomed" in Lansing? What does the Lansing School district propose to make sure children are safe? We keeping hearing all these anti-gun groups saying no to armed school personnel yet they continue to fail when it comes bringing anything valuable to the table for how to keep children safe... This is the same school district who can't even keep 9 and 12 year old children from beating each other up on the school bus and then fails to even discipline the child responsible, yet they think they know best for child safety..
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