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Auto Bailout on Life Support Save Email Print
Posted: 10:53 PM Nov 17, 2008
Last Updated: 10:53 PM Nov 17, 2008
Reporter: Associated Press

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Prospects dimmed on Monday for the $25 billion bailout that U.S. automakers say they desperately need to get through a bleak and dangerous December.
Though all sides agree that Detroit's Big Three carmakers are in peril, battered by the economic meltdown that has choked their sales and frozen loans, the White House and congressional Democrats are headed for stalemate over how much government money should go toward helping them.
Behind the logjam is a troubling reality for the car companies: Bailout fatigue has set in at the White House and on Capitol Hill, where many in both parties have spent the past few weeks being berated by constituents for agreeing to the $700 billion Wall Street rescue.
The new debate comes as the financial situation for General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC grows more precarious. GM has said it could run out of cash by year's end without government aid.
A Senate auto bailout bill unveiled Monday noted that 355,000 U.S. workers are directly employed by the auto industry, and an additional 4.5 million work in related industries. That doesn't count the 1 million retirees, spouses and dependents who rely on the companies for retirement and health care benefits.
Still, not only has President George W. Bush made it clear he doesn't want to dole out any new aid for the automakers, congressional officials say his administration has privately informed top Democrats it won't even use at least half of that huge rescue fund approved last month to aid the financial industry.
The Senate Democrats' measure would carve out a portion of the Wall Street bailout money to pay for loans to U.S. automakers and their domestic suppliers, but aides in both parties and lobbyists tracking the plan privately acknowledge they are far short of the votes to pass it.
Republicans insist that any automaker bailout money instead come from redirecting a $25 billion loan program approved by Congress in September to help the industry develop more fuel-efficient vehicles. The GOP would lift restrictions on that money to speed it to the carmakers.
Democrats want to leave that money alone and give the industry an additional $25 billion from the financial bailout funds -- for a total of $50 billion.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he would hold a vote during this week's postelection session on a bill that pairs the auto industry bailout with an extension of jobless aid. But in an acknowledgment of the long odds facing such a plan, Reid also laid the groundwork for a straight up-or-down vote on the more widely supported unemployment measure, which is probably all that can pass this week.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has held off scheduling a vote on an auto bailout bill until it becomes clear whether such a measure can pass the Senate, where it would need a 60-vote supermajority to advance.
The Senate's proposed auto aid bill would provide loans with initial interest rates of 5 percent in exchange for a stake in the companies or warrants that would let the government profit from future gains. Loan applicants would have to give the government a plan for "long-term financial viability."
But the measure stops short of giving the government a say over the companies' operations through an oversight board or hard limits on executive compensation. While taking advantage of the program, the companies could not pay dividends or award bonuses to executives making more than $250,000 a year or give large "golden parachute" payments to top people.
A House version drafted by Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., goes further, requiring that U.S. automakers immediately repay the loans next spring if they don't give the government an acceptable restructuring plan that shows they can survive, including details on how they will transition to making vehicles that use less gasoline.
"(W)e think it essential that loans be linked to significant progress in the ability of the companies to eventually market energy-efficient cars with broad public appeal," Frank, the Financial Services Committee chairman, said in a statement Monday night.
Unlike the Senate measure, the House plan would be limited strictly to Detroit's Big Three.
A vote on the Senate measure could come as early as Thursday.
The White House, meanwhile, took pains to clarify its position on the bailout, saying the administration "does not want U.S. automakers to fail." But press secretary Dana Perino said the administration steadfastly opposes "raiding" the $700 billion bailout plan to help Detroit.
"We're surprised that Senate Democrats would propose a bailout that fails to require auto makers to make the hard decisions needed to restructure and become viable," Perino said in a statement.
President-elect Barack Obama has said he believes aid for U.S. carmakers is needed, but he hasn't specified where it should come from. He says the money should come as part of a long-term plan for the industry.
Sen. Carl M. Levin, D-Mich., who crafted the Senate Democrats' bill and spoke with Obama Monday, said the president-elect has "not signed off on any particular language or any particular approach" but generally backs loans to the struggling auto industry.
With all sides agreeing something should be done, Levin said, "There's a reasonably good chance that we can get this done this week."
The chief executives of the Detroit auto companies and the head of the United Auto Workers union are to make their case for the aid Tuesday at a Senate Banking Committee hearing. The House Financial Services panel is to hold a similar session Wednesday.
But the package is a tough sell to the public. In a Gallup Poll conducted Nov. 7-9, only 20 percent said providing loans and other help to auto companies should be a top economic priority for Obama. Given five choices, aid to the auto industry tied with assistance for large financial institutions as least-favored options.
Most -- 60 percent -- said enacting stricter regulations for financial institutions should be a No. 1 goal. About half named helping homeowners, about the same number supported cutting taxes for the middle class, while a third cited a new economic stimulus package.
"The automobile industry, obviously, is of enormous importance in our country, and not to have the automobile industry would have very, very severe economic consequences," said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. But, he added, "The question that I would submit, and heard from my constituents: 'Who's next?"'
Some top Republicans are against any additional federal automaker help, no matter where it comes from.
"There's no indication that the car companies would do anything different than what they've been doing, which has been a big failure, which is why they need the bailout. And there's no reason to throw money at a problem that is not going to get solved," said Sen. Jon S. Kyl of Arizona, the No. 2 Republican.

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Posted by: DAN Location: Michigan on Nov 20, 2008 at 08:50 AM
Hey Phil your on the right track there and years ago that would of worked. But now GM,Ford and Chrysler are having parts made out of the United States. So the money still don't stay here. The prices on our cars are way high if you compare with out of country cars. Everyone is going though tough times here so waste has to stop from government to house hold thats the bottom line. It still come to this "we the people" have to somehow get some control with government spending and out of control payrolls. We all should just go to the barter system LOL nothing wrong there. Oh by the way you did see that the big 3 flew in to Washington and not drive in there own cars so it should start there as you can see there is alot to trim there and more all over.

Posted by: Phil Location: Michigan on Nov 19, 2008 at 07:00 PM
Everyone wants to complain about GM, Chrysler, & Ford needing money to continue. What people don't realize is the Japanese companies and other foreign companies are supported by their Governments. BUY AMERICAN keep the profits here in our country. It may keep other businesses alive - Like our Steel Mills we no longer have. If you buy a Honda made in the US, the profits go to Japan. Same with Toyota. Just think how much money would be generated by American people spending their earnings on American made items, more US businesses equals more money in the US and more taxes generated for the US Govenment. Makes sense to keep our money here.

Posted by: Chris Location: Mason on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:07 PM
I know someone that works at GM and is in the UAW. Rumor has it they plan to vandalize/destroy foreign cars if they get screwed. Sounds like they are just sore losers.

Posted by: todd on Nov 19, 2008 at 02:28 PM
Why does noone complain about skilled trared such as plumbers, They get around 40 an hour to glue plastic pipes together? As an auto worker I have a bad wrist and other aches and pains 25 is not that much for the trade off.

Posted by: jon Location: mi on Nov 19, 2008 at 02:00 PM
james who has 10,000 to give GM ? I work at a plant thats closing, remember????

Posted by: DAN Location: SPRINGPORT on Nov 19, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Hey the big three wants money all they have to do is look in their pockets!! Here's how it works (Chris Mathews said this) that if they get government money they get government pay. The President only gets $400,000 and no one should get anymore than that. Those at the top getting the gold umbrella and all should go away. And how about doing a complete audit before any money is handed out. Let the ones at the top live like us at the bottom then and only then will things be seen in the right view. That is what should have been done with the banks getting the bail out. There has been a audit attempt on the government but it could not be done because money just got lost and moved so much that it could not be traced. And now we wonder why we are here at this point. GO BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE CONSTITUTION AND START AT WE THE PEOPLE.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 19, 2008 at 08:21 AM
Virg, The city of lansing could make an goodwill gesture and put up a million dollars. If the union does not want to go to bankruptcy, they need to put up some earnest money to show that they believe in the big 3.

Posted by: Kim Location: Lansing on Nov 19, 2008 at 07:49 AM
Isn't weird that Honda and Toyota didn't ask for bailouts and they have plants here in the states! Hmmmm What are they doing right?

Posted by: jen Location: mi on Nov 18, 2008 at 08:49 PM
it's not fair to blame the g.m workers. We need to fire the top and start over, it's like mich government ,and the rest of the big spenders,who's keeping watch of these fat-cats,it the joe the plumber who are getting screwed

Posted by: James Location: Stockbridge on Nov 18, 2008 at 07:18 PM
If each employee and retiree would loan their companies $10,000, it would cover what the companies are requesting.

Posted by: June Location: Stockbridge on Nov 18, 2008 at 06:54 PM
The bailouts MUST stop! The union contracts need to be renegogiated and if bankruptcy is the only way renegogiations will happen then the automakers should file! Long ago unions saved our country, however the greed of unions have ruined us. Union wages and bonuses must be reduced and executives salaries and perks should be regulated. How does the gov't think taxpayers can absorb all the give-aways to the big corporations? God help us in this country where everyone stands with an outstretched hand in hopes of getting free money!

Posted by: kathy Location: eaton rapids on Nov 18, 2008 at 06:38 PM
Have the big 3 combine and make a new auto company......

Posted by: Kurk Location: Mason on Nov 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM
One suggestioned offered up by a radio talk show host this week seemed to me the perfect solution for the auto industries, dealers and americans Offer every american adult a $15,000 rebate for a new vehicle This would allow the car companies to move their overstocked cars It would allow the american people to decide which auto company deserves to be bailed out, which car company has the best product it would allow dealers with overstocked cars to be bailed out also it would allow lower income americans more used cars to choose from (tradeins on the new cars purchased above) it would allow newer and more efficient cars on the streets and remove a lot of older less-efficient cars from the streets over-all rebates would solve the economic problems for everyone involved in the auto-business

Posted by: Franklin Location: Lansing on Nov 18, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Any company wishing a "bailout" needs to first get it's house in order BEFORE any money should be considered. For example, Automakers need to cut off ALL bonuses (workers & Mgmt) and then they need to declare bankruptcy, allowing them to re-do their union contracts and lower wage sales, America is in no mood to subsidize wealthy-union workers (most of america could only dream of $25 hourly wages with wealthy benefit packages. After they restructure their wage and benefit packages (and stop paying workers to not work, ie: Job Banks) than and only then should they be at the public trough looking for tax money Another sad fact is that in a free market society some companies need to fall by the wayside if they are unsuccessful, other car companies will step in and fill the gap and supply workers and new efficient models if that's what america wants or needs if america doesnt need this many car companies, then they should be thinned out.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 18, 2008 at 10:54 AM
If our lawmakers want to imrpove the bailout, they need to cut their spending and taxing.

Posted by: Nick Location: Mason on Nov 18, 2008 at 09:46 AM
The "BIG THREE" don't deserve to be bailed out, too much money has been spent on bailouts! why don't they cut the huge holiday bonuses for the execs. Oh yeah one more thing, if my Mothers business starts struggling will the government help bail her out! NO THEY WILL NOT! It is a good 'ol boys club. How about divide all the bailout money up among all legal adults in the U.S. and see what happens to the economy. I am so sick of it!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 18, 2008 at 09:39 AM
why didnt stabenow support it

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