The latest proposed change in Michigan's gun laws, which would allow people with their permits to have guns in "No Carry Zones" like schools, is just one reason these advocates of the Country's second amendment were at the Capitol.
President of Citizens League for Self Defense John Roshek organized the rally for both rights and safety: "If we enable our citizens to legally protect themselves and defend themselves and those around them, then we are going to see a decrease in crime statistics."
Roshek tells me, more and more people are carrying illegally, causing more violence: "The cure for that is putting more fire arms in law-abiding citizens hands."
Just a few miles south of the Capitol, another Lansing rally against violence argues if you have more guns, you get more problems.
John Edmond said: "Guns are meant to kill people. If they simply get into the wrong hands, that means there's the opportunity for a tragedy."
By wrong hands, he means registered people too. Edmond believes the more people with guns, the higher odds they could be pulled when not necessary.
He came to this rally to speak about a time when it happened to him: "My daughter Amaia Edmond was killed in a home invasion."
At 7-years-old, a stray bullet not meant for her. It's a tragedy both sides of the gun debate want to make sure doesn't happen in the community again, just taking opposite views in attempt to get there.
For now, the proposed changes to the state law have been put on hold until the legislature decides to move forward.