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Proposal Introduced for Public Employees to Pay for Health Care Save Email Print
Posted: 5:56 PM Jun 19, 2007
Last Updated: 11:19 PM Jun 19, 2007
Reporter: A.J. Hilton
Email Address: aj.hilton@wilx.com

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A plan impacting state workers including everyone from current and former lawmakers to prison guards could save the state millions of dollars. State Representative Lorence Wenke of Kalamazoo wants to require public employees-- both current and past to foot the bill, and pay 25 percent of their health care premiums.

"We're the leadership," said Rep. Wenke. " We should set the example. It would make a dramatic difference in balancing the budget in the state of Michigan."

Rep. Wenke says he believes his plan could save the state upwards of $400 million a year. But the State Employees Union believes that Rep. Wenke is going about it the wrong way.

"This would put a tremendous burden on people who often are forced now to live from paycheck to paycheck," said Treasurer Alan Kilar of the State Employees UAW.

Kilar believes lawmakers should reform health care instead of forcing public employees to pay more.

"I think if we want to attract quality employees to state service and to the state of Michigan, we don't do that by cutting benefits," said Kilar.

The State Employees UAW negotiates benefits with the Office of State Employees, which are then approved by the Civil Service Commissioner.

Rep. Wenke says his goal isn't to get legislation passed, but rather-- to gain the right attention.

"The governor is the person who takes the lead in negotiations with state employees. We need to set the example," said Rep. Wenke.

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Posted by: Terry Location: Lansing on Jun 23, 2007 at 06:02 AM
It might be noted that Rep Wenke made his money in the flower business noted for not hiring seasonal part time employee's, paying piece work and of course no benefits all of which has made him rather wealthy. He appears to not like state employee's for some reason and he does not appear interested in having the benefits provided by most hard working state employee's. Benefits are a target, but not the purchasing requirements that make employee's pay 3 times more for equipments and supplies as a private citizen could pay at a local store off the shelf despite the state's high volume purchase power. There are far more waste, include state employee's in the budget talks and you will discover tons of ways to save the state money.

Posted by: Sandy Location: kalamazoo on Jun 22, 2007 at 10:33 PM
Maybe the state employees along with their family and friends should not spend their hard earned money at Wenke's greenhouse on Sprinkle Rd. Then maybe he will understand what it is like to live with less income. Also he seems to forget we are taxpayers also and that if we have less to spend Michigan gets less revenue. State employees deal with things that no one else will!!!

Posted by: Lisa Location: Lansing on Jun 21, 2007 at 03:24 PM
Apparently he just wants to fan the fire after the LSJ great idea! Rep. Wenke needs to get his head out of you know where. If his goal is not to get legislation passed but gain the right attention-is he planning on running for governor? What is the right attention?

Posted by: Lynelle Shaker Location: Genesee County/Flint on Jun 21, 2007 at 02:30 PM
Maybe Rep. Wenke is paying more for his state funded health insurance and we just don't know it? Maybe Rep. Wenke is reducing his wage as his party is trying to do to mine and we just don't know it. BUT I highly doubt it. Going after state workers wages/benefits is not going to balance the budget. How about a part time legislature? I hear you don't work the same amount of days a year I do right now, but get paid for a full year. Talk about a gravy job! Can I apply?

Posted by: G Location: Lansing on Jun 21, 2007 at 02:06 PM
Why don't we go to a part-time unpaid legislature? That should help ALOT! Also- if they must be paid- why not have their own constituents vote on what their salary should be and whether or not they get a raise and/or benefits? Then we might have some legislators that actually work hard for the people who put them in office! And whomever mentioned raising taxes to cover budget issues is an idiot. Our problem has been all along that we spend way more than we take in. Stop spending so much. The more taxes we have (one of the largest tax rates in the country, one of the highest unemployment rates...I think we rank right up there with Alaska...) the less likely we are going to have successful businesses to provide jobs for people and the less people will have income for them to even tax...It is a vicious cycle and the current Gov and legislature doesn't even get the connection....DUH! Lastly, if you are unhappy with your benefits and salary- find a private job. I left the State for the same reasons you guys are griping about. If you can earn more and get better benefits in "the real world" then DO IT!

Posted by: Thea Location: DHS on Jun 21, 2007 at 10:39 AM
I think that us being State employees we should not have to flip the bill for the states budget, in case you haven't noticed we have been hit everytime there is a "budget problem" and then we are suppose to grin and bear it as the public that we serve every day, seems to get better treatment than those of us that work everyday making sure that they don't go "without" and taking their rude comments and then the employer that we have wants to have us take more cuts on our side. If we are going to start making cuts lets start at the top and take away all of the big raises that were given out to people that just make comments about taking away from us that are in the offices and doing the job first hand. Take a closer look at those of us that are in the offices and how short handed we are that we are doing the job of 2 to 3 employees and expected to get out the same amount of work. Stand in our shoes for a few weeks and then tells us, oh and by the way we are going to make more cuts on all of you because we can't find any other way to due it without affecting our employees.

Posted by: Worker Location: Lansing on Jun 21, 2007 at 10:08 AM
Well the LSJ has gone and figured this all out for us. Just go to their all but "just" website that provides the names and salaries of all state employees. Not only will this show the Private sector just how little salary there is to pay out more of the health care premiums from, but it will also show that it is not the salaries of the employees causing this huge budget crisis. The governor's office and her husband's office expenses most likely will not be included on that website, that is why the prior statement is true. Do not be mislead private sector, state employees do not receive that full salary stated on said website, since the governor is consistently forcing unpaid leave days, "banked leave time" (unpaid hours), unpaid overtime (that is now mandatory), and other such ways to balance her budget. We also have to pay up to 100 dollars a month for parking, and we do not even get free coffee in our offices. But whatever is Fair...

Posted by: Sherry Location: Lansing on Jun 21, 2007 at 10:08 AM
When is the legislature going to take a pay cut? They graciously gave themselves a 36% percent raise and have given nothing back to the STATE of MICHIGAN people.

Posted by: A State Worker Location: Lansing on Jun 21, 2007 at 08:47 AM
I'm starting to think our representatives dont live in the real world. As a current State employee with almost 20 years of public service I am disappointed and dismayed that we are of so little value to our politicians. The constant bombardment by our State legislature does nothing but kill the morale of public servants. Obviously Mr. Wenke gives very little value to government services. I think perhaps the people of Kalamazoo should consider if this is the kind of person they want to represent them in government. Do they value having clean air, clean water, good roads, etc? Frankly, if benefits get cut by the percentage Mr. Wenke is proposing, there is really no point for professionals, such as engineers and scientists, in continuing State service. I for one will be looking for a new job - outside of the State of Michigan. Hopefully that will be enough of my blood for Rep Wenke.

Posted by: Dave Location: Lansing on Jun 21, 2007 at 06:33 AM
How about current and former lawmakers giving back that last raise and taking the lead by going on some unpaid furlough days themselves? Don't ask the people you lead to make sacrifices you are not willing to make.

Posted by: Rob Location: LakeOdessa on Jun 20, 2007 at 06:18 PM
I guess when I recieve MY next 38% pay raise for part time work and full time pay ill be happy to pay 25% of my health care.

Posted by: Scott Location: KZOO on Jun 20, 2007 at 04:14 PM
Karen..the state employees do pay a portion of their healthcare (premiums,deductibles). The difference is that the same job I do in the private sector would pay double what I pay working for the State. We pay the same sales taxes, property taxes, utilities, and gas prices that everyone else in the state pays. We do not get rewards or tax cuts for working for the State, all we get is a punch in the face everytime this State has a problem. Everyone thinks that we have all these discounts and gravy jobs because we work for the State of Michigan. The people of this state need to realize that the workers of this state are like every other citizen.

Posted by: Gary Location: Vermontville on Jun 20, 2007 at 03:47 PM
Just another attempt by the state to screw the poor retirees out of more of thier pension money that they have already earned and is due them legally by contract.Any retroactive action taken against retired state employees to make them pay more is sure to end up in a court legal battle costing the state tax payer even more money because of the stupidity of those proposing this change . Save every one money and just quit you sorry s.O.B.s.

Posted by: Cathy Location: Flint on Jun 20, 2007 at 02:21 PM
Rep. Wenke needs to sit where the state workers sit, then he might feel different. What is wrong with Granholm, she sucks. It's always the state workers who give and give, till what else...........If I were looking for a place to raise my family and work in Lansing, you can bet I would look elsewhere. Lansing sucks also

Posted by: Pete Location: Lansing on Jun 20, 2007 at 02:18 PM
Just what we all need... one more reason to leave Michigan! When are our illustrious "LEADERS" going to stop turning Michigan into the armpit of the United States and get serious about getting back on the right track... or at least SOME kind of track other than the downward spiral we've been in for 5 years? Pay more for healthcare?!?! My ass! Its time to do something about how much healthcare costs to begin with! Perhaps if we could do anything about the most popular job in Michigan (read: lobbyist for the insurance industry) we'd find some more logical solutions to our problems!

Posted by: Magna Location: Lansing on Jun 20, 2007 at 02:16 PM
What Karen doesnt realize either is that State Employees for the most part dont make the same kind of money as a similar employee in the Private Sector. Its either less pay and better benifits like with the State or better pay and less benifits as with the private sector. So dont sit there and say State Employees should have to pay too. As everyone else has said. Look at what State Employees have given back to this State the last two years. Did you work 80 hours every two weeks but only get paid for 76 for a year straight? I doubt it. Did you take 4 days off unpaid? I doubt it. Its about time this state starts feeling the pain and that includes EVERYONE. Not just those that have lost their jobs and the state employees who are easy targets. Lets see you give something back!!!! Then you can voice your opinoin.

Posted by: Buddy Location: Holt on Jun 20, 2007 at 01:31 PM
Why is it always the state employees that have to fix the messed up budget?? Was it caused by them?? The solution is, so that no certain groups are "picked" on, is to raise the income tax by .05%. This way, it effects EVERYBODY !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jennifer Location: East Lansing on Jun 20, 2007 at 10:55 AM
Rep. Wenke probably has a 2 income family with additional insurance coverage. Many families only have 1 income with no other insurance option. Also, a 25% contribution is a total unrealistic expectation of state workers! It would be a pay cut. It may save $400 million a year but that is on the backs of 60,000-70,000 people out of 10 million people in the state. That is completely absurd to expect that of anyone. The budget crisis is not the problem of state employees. It is a problem of the entire state. State employees suffer enough with continued threats of layoffs, shutdowns, job freezes and no chance of ever getting promoted no matter how hard you work. Perhaps Rep. Wenke could look into the abuses that take place in the "welfare" system instead of attacking people who fund the "welfare" system.

Posted by: KATIE on Jun 20, 2007 at 10:44 AM
STATE WORKERS HAVE SACRIFICED QUITE A BIT ALREADY IN BALANCING THE BUDGET. WHY MUST THE EMPLOYEES ALWAYS BE THE ONES TO SUFFER? SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHOUT ALWAYS TAKING THINGS AWAY FROM THE ALREADY STRESSED OUT WORKERS.

Posted by: Wendy Location: Allegan on Jun 20, 2007 at 10:38 AM
I understand what you are saying, Karen, but we are not asking to NOT pay anything towards insurance. We just want it to stop increasing so much when the legislators receive such great benefits for such a SHORT time in office. Cutting their pay and increasing their insurance payments would help the budget of this State FAR MORE than going after the front line workers who are also living paycheck to paycheck like the general public.

Posted by: Jane Location: Kalamazoo on Jun 20, 2007 at 09:58 AM
We state workers already pay a portion of our health care costs through premiums, deductibles, co-pays, etc. In addition, we have been paid for fewer hours than we worked for 2 years (time "banked" for leave usage) and had several furlough (unpaid) days in the past. Continual staff reductions resulted in unmanagable work loads. There are limits to how much we should be expected to give back to balance the budget.

Posted by: Linn Location: Lansing on Jun 20, 2007 at 09:55 AM
State employees do pay for a portion of their healthcare benefits, along with co-pays just like anyone else that works for a company.

Posted by: Sue Location: Lansing on Jun 20, 2007 at 07:18 AM
As a state worker I would like to explain to Karen that we DO pay for a portion of our insurance premiums. We have also had all of our co-pays increased. This plan would increase all of that again. For those of us that work in downtown Lansing we also must pay for parking at an average cost of $75 month. We've taken furlough days and Banked leave time in the past that have cost each state worker several thousand dollars. This deficit was not created by state workers.

Posted by: bill Location: haslett on Jun 19, 2007 at 11:45 PM
People working for the state or the private sector must fight to keep health insurance. The pressure on the governments state and federal should be exerted till they take action to fix it. For example Mass. and CA are trying. Making State employees pay for insurance is like saying lets match our "quality" jobs to the least rewarded in the private sector.

Posted by: Overworked Gov't Employee Location: Lansing on Jun 19, 2007 at 11:19 PM
As soon as the "private sector" is subjected to the state employees' lower salaries, overtime with no extra pay, triple work with no extra help or compensation, and is FORCED to take unpaid leave days at the governor's will.. then it MIGHT be on a potentially common level as the state employees in order to discuss how state employees should pay for healthcare costs "like the private sector". You know not of what you speak... Signed, Overworked Gov't Employee

Posted by: Karen on Jun 19, 2007 at 06:09 PM
The state workers should pay for a portion of their healthcare just like the private sector has to. The private sectors insurance rates are continually increasing and the increase is passed onto the participants of the group policy, so why shouldn't the government be the same. I understand they want to attract the best people to work for them but so does any other company out there and they still have to pay for their insurance.

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