Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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We wouldn't have to be cutting the budget if jobs were here in MI.So why don't all them in upper gov do something about that.Lets face it.Only CUTS will be done That effects the poorer ones,children,as in schools.And very needed programs to help thousands now till jobs do come to MI.The rich won't have to suffer a bit.Nor does any in upper government.Those with good jobs will be alright.As prices continue to go up ,more will not afford.More homes will go up for sale or the banks will foreclose.Buy a cheaper home?Taxes remain high.Pay 30,000,it may be worth 60,000 and you are taxed for that,not what you paid.Then on top of all other bills many are not buying.One thing leads to another.Many banks have closed.Many have lost jobs.Soon jenn will be out of office,so No I don't think she cares what happens to many.So who we vote in may not care either.They just want the name and money.D or R are all evil and greedy.
BIG government, creates BIG problems. You can't trust either party becuase the problems are so big you can't put a figger on it. How many still want BIG government health care. You think we have problems now???
When is she going to take part of the blame instead of deferring it to BUSH.
All cuts to this or that says many will be laid off?This says that more tax money will be lost.For almost 8 yrs Mi government has failed on getting jobs into MI.The math don't add up to why Mi is so broke?I never seen MI in this condition.I really don't think either party knows what they are doing.Then again,if us voters don't like what one party is doing we vote for the other party.Not all D are bad or all R are.Why do we judge all by one?This is making matters worse.It gives more room for their little spiteful ways against each other.The people are caught in the middle and nothing is getting done in the right ways.We seem to be ending up with bad no matter who gets in office.
Laying off people just ends up with less tax money being paid.Less tax money must mean everyone,low income,those already in poverty,disabled,social security people and every one now in the hole mich government has put them in.Get 00000 and less than that?While every bit of tax money for anything comes after upper government ones get their pay?They must also keep who ever they wish rich,and continue to take away from the rest to keep whom ever rich?We see some millages passing in many areas after the school cuts.Sad that those saying yes,will hurt the many who can't afford.I guess the time has come that the lower incomes now have NO right to own homes or have a life.The government keeps causing people to loose jobs,so they loose tax money.The people loose everything they have worked for.How many children are caught up in this evil government we now see?At least GOD will make many things clear to government ones in the end.There are some sins God won't forgive.
I am thinking that Governor Granholm is using Budget cuts as a code word for I give up, come on Jennifer, I am a union employee, and I don't want you back.
How many monkeys does it take to run MI state government?More lay offs?Those people will never be called back to work.Why can't there be some cuts in how many monkeys it takes to run this state,their pay needs cut as much as they cut everyone else.That would be a big part in the budget fix.Example.School students each got 300$ cut so cut upper gov pay 300$ each.All loosing their pay and jobs,cut that from each upper gov person.if one makes 40,000,gets laid off because of what gov has done to mich,take that from one upper gov person,the laid off person pay.Soon the governments pay will be equal to what the rest of us get000.Job for job,pay for pay.JOBS are what MI needs.Gov did not do what they were suppose to to get jobs here.So they cut themselves short of tax money and should be treated as they treat people and the things needed in MI,They have caused many to loose everything,why do they deserve better?
How about the governor and the rest of the lawmakers take back the 30% pay raise they gave themselves a few years back.
1.4 billion is about 2% of 700 billion--not 20%. Maybe we should spend more money on education so they can learn basic multiplication.