Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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"I want a break too" thinks its always been every man for himself and always will be. WRONG, this mind set is gonna change in the future. Lucky and fortunate people can't stand the thought of caring about the well being of strangers.
i want a break too Location~ I love your post. Its sad but very true.
I agree with Bonnie. Where are the "DEALS" for the UAW retirees? The current union members were happy to take what the retirees busted their backs for weren't they? Retirees didn't get a say in that and never will. Most employers don't offer health benefits at a reasonable/affordable rate UNLESS the unions make them!!
What I want to know is when will responsible people who pay their bills and taxes, and are not causing problems in their communities going to get a break? How many times have you been at meijers and watch someone with a bridge card buy nothing but junk food, and then go out to their brand new cadillacs (or whatever). How about people who are working hard to make ends meet! WHEN DO WE GET A BREAK!! I'm tired of seeing people who are scamming the system in the first place continue to get hand outs and breaks and then act like they are entitled to it.
To anonymous there already is such a card it is called the Bridge card and it is money to buy food only. Go to your local DHS office and apply, it helps! I got laid off 1 month ago and as a single parent of 2 children was getting about $100 a month in food money. When I got laid off I received over $500 a month for food. As far as these deals for Kmart and Sears it is just going to make people get themselves into deeper debt. There are a lot of community resources out there to help you just have to be willing to help yourself too!
So Kris you telling me then that if was to loose your job you would run right out and buy a new stove, washer, dryer, refridgerator. Well if this is something you would do then go for it and put yourself in a even worse situation than you are already in. I know I would not do this cause yes I lost my job and I know there is no money to make payments on this stuff so I am not as stupid as you would be.
I'm not sure about the Kmart deal nor I care, but I do care about the people of Michigan. I wonder if it would be a good idea if the state government had a program that the people who are jobless right now could get some kind of card from the state and offer 10-20% off of food and other goods. I would think there are a lot of details to work out, but look at the money the state would save it could be like a credit card but only use it for food. Plus it would keep track of these people and there spending, the state would have a lot of data and kick off the people who cheats the government and helps the ones who need it.
Wow, way to cut down someone who is trying to help the poor people of Michigan out. Nice to see you are only thinking of yourselves Bonnie and JB.
Well Bonnie that is why I would not work where there is a union cause they will screw you over every time. As for the deals Sears and Kmart are offering well the one Kmart is offering is good but the one Sears is offering is a joke. It only helps you if you spend alot of money buying appliances and not the important things that are needed. Sears needs to go away they are to expensive and a waste of time. I will never do business with them ever again because they screwed me over once several years ago and that was all it took for me.
Deals for Michigans Unemployed!! Where are the deals going to start coming for the GM and Chrysler retirees who just got the worlds greatest injustice forced on them by the UAW and which ever company that they retired from and the employees that are actively still working or on layoff(those who voted for the retirees to have the rug pulled out from under them for health care)We spent most of our lives giving and giving. Would like to have someone give us "A DEAL"..of some kind!!