Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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Boo Hoo Hoo! You friggin cry babie's sell all your expensive car's and toy's and live in a affordable normal house like the rest of us, kick the smoking habit, stop eating out all the time, Ha Ha ha 2 all u overpaid junk mail carrier's. Maybe you ding dong's won't steal everyone's victoria secret free gift card's and get away with it. I hope u all lose your job's!!!!!!!
this is not a downsizing. its a lateral transfer. taking from Jackson and giving to lansing, a move that will only cost the postal service $$. Jackson has proven greater efficency ratings than the bigger offices year after year. also the reporter spoke of employees possibly facing transfers or LAYOFFS which is incorrect. no layoffs will take place under the APWU bargaining agreement untill at least november 2010.
I have no simpathy for anyone that loses there job at the post office. I worked for a delivery Co. and I used to do pick ups at the Collins road office In lansing. And the guy that would help me would 85% of the time be sitting on his butt reading a paper, one time I came in to get my pick up and for 5 mins. and watched him look at ebay on the computer screen and all the time I was there he didnt even look to see if there was anyone there waiting. lazy and getting payed what 14 to 25 $ an hour. So I say suck it up and so what to the ones that are losing there jobs wellcome to the real world. Id like to see you get a job doing real work.
Reading the comments reminds how stupid people are on the internet slower mail=bill's late don't forget most places close at 5 not all of us have credit cards what about the older people who don't have internet access what about reviews from unemployment you got 3 days to respond think about that all these negative comments make me think your all on welfare so you don't care don't cut the mail service cut the pay of the person in charge that has a house we pay for that is a mansion look it up people he got a bonus that was more then i would make in a life time
With unemployment over 14% in the county of Jackson, I don't believe anybody will really care if a few federal employees move to Lansing or lose their job.
They'll just lose mail at a slower pace. Our mail here in Lansing either gets delivered to a neighbor or not at all on a routine basis. How hard is it to deliver a piece of mail to the correct address. If anything, how about having Jackson process Lansing's mail? We wouldn't use e-mail and EFT so much if we could truly rely on mail delivery.
Years ago Jackson canceled its own mail, then That was taken away and given to Lansing, which resulted in delays to Jackson mail and the loss of our cancellation stamp. Now they want to take away our ability to sort our own mail or even have a convenient place to purchase postal services. What's next? Will they eventually make us drive to Lansing to pick up our own mail? Don't let Postal management sweep away our service and our jobs. If we sit back and do nothing we might as well turn out Jackson's lights right now. Congress needs to put a stop to management by AMPutation. Cutting off a limb before knowing where the actual problem is located will only waste more money, and leave more communities with empty mailboxes and empty bank accounts.
Like this isn't the only Government service that hasn't downsize,we can't keep paying for services and jobs when people are using less USPS,Its hard to lose a job but its happening everywhere.
Get over it! cuts and change are all over the place. These steps are needed to restore this country to it former place So what if Jr. doesn't get his card from grandma on time
Here we go again. E-mail and EFT (electronic funds transfer) has reduced the need for postal workers and yet they seen the train wreck and decided to stand in the middle of the tracks until they got ran over. These unions all have the same legacy costs. Work 25-30 years and your home free. Guess what life doesn't work like that. Tombstone62, the public has been activated and they are not using your service. Don't you get it. Ted was worried about technology, he just flipped out and went about protesting in a lethal manner. No one wanted to listen and now we are experiencing the result. The insurance company I work for is doing the same thing, the only difference I created a plan to position myself to get off the tracks so I wouldn't get run over. The trouble with too many people they live beyond their means. To many consumers are like cattle being led to slaughter. Did you think just because you are union and work for the government you would be immune from downsizing.
we are not a business
The time for the public to activate is now. Contact or write your congressman or Senators to stop this inane move. Make the USPS show transparency in their thaught making and accounting measures.
They are downsizing like every other business.