Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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If your gonna have kids, cars, and houses, then plan on working yourself to death. Increasing costs (taxes) one way or another for all three. My wife and I are dual income. No kids, No car, and live in a small apt. Yeah, we are weird. People that move in around us in their early 20's i explain how to live easily when your 42 years old. Don't buy into the american dream and you won't have to live the american nightmare. Teri i take back the republican statement, but not the downsizing. If i saw this coming years ago, why didn't you ?
Our homes should be protected above all else. Property taxes SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO UP with the economy in the shape that it's in. They should at least have to remain a current assessments.
Chris, how do you downsize when you can't sell your house. You should really look at the big picture before making a statement like that and being Rep has nothing to do with it.
Every President that I can rememember has spouted the american dream. I admit I have voted republican most of my life. I'm getting fed up with both parties. Chris would have you believe only the republicans have ego's. Well I have plenty of friends that vote republican. I live in a small 1200 sq. foot ranch and my mortgage was pd in full when I was 49 years old. I didn't take out home equity loans, I have one lousy credit card with no balance to be used for emergencies. I have a modest car payment. I work for a non-union company that employees about 1200 right here in lansing and we have never laid anyone off in the 38 years I've worked there. The company is conservative overall and my salary is much less than a GM employee. I worked hard to own my little American dream and if that is having an ego than so be it, I didn't work all these years to live in an apartment with a bunch of snobby liberals.
Noone complained when they were paying less in taxes when they should have been paying more.
Keep waiting ..Soon you will not be able to sell your home until you make it ECO FRIENDLY..White roof, special appliances, Light bulbs created for energy efficency.. New furnace, air conditioners..ETC etc..THE GOVT is working on this right now..Not too mention, they want to install GPS on your vehicle so they can TAX you by the MILE... And if the SENATE passes the cap and trade, YOU wont have to worry , cuz you wont be able to afford the Electric or gas bills in your home..Just buy plenty of candles so you can read in the dark, and make sure you have a BBQ grill to cook your meals on.
Live in a very small apartment, and you'll have less problems hanging over your head. I've noticed the people that complain the most about taxes are the ones that wouldn't dream of down sizing because of egos and are usually republicans. They call it the american dream because you gotta be asleep to believe in it.
The government is taking advantage of proposal A. The law says they CAN raise taxes at the rate of inflation or 5% which ever is less. It doesn't say they HAVE too. You can expect more thievery once the rate of inflation exceeds 5% because of the SOCIALIST programs being rammed through congress. Welcome to LEGALALIZED theft by our STATE and LOCAL government officials. Let's see the transparency. Let these officials release their property tax documents. If they had any sympathy for the tax payer they could refrain from charging the max. but they are opportunistic just like a habitual thief. You can make a difference, vote your pocket book in 2010 before they put a foreclosure on your home. We won't need any green technology once they turn out all of the lights in Michigan.
Here is the question? Where in the world are our taxes going? I see larger potholes in the road. I hear some road projects are being deferred. I see we are letting out prisoners to mingle with the general population. I see Ingham county wants to cut sheriff service to distant townships. The list goes on and on. I have lived in 5 or so states in the union and Michigan by far has been the worse experience. What is going on up in Lansing. Gov. Granholm are you listening---your state has big problems! What are you doing to solve them? I hope you aren't too busy trying to get a great position on the Obama team. I'd say its time to get to work trying to retain people in your state so taxes won't continue to increase. Thanks-rant over.
taxes are out of control! ours were $3,000 for a year and we now pay $2,900 just for summer it is STUPID! wreckless spending! they get rid of programs like galieo childhood center and our ingham county sherriff but continue to spend on things that are not needed!