Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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I miss you Doug! I still can't believe you are gone. I wish I could see you one more time to tell you what a great person you are and how much you meant to me! Forever missed but never forgotten!
He was a good man and when my father died on June 18th 2009 it was Doug that was there to console my family. He was a friend and I miss him! Rest in Peace and tell Perry I said Hi! God be with your family and friends!
You have my heartfelt sympathies. A loss of this kind is never easy but when it becomes so public and people so insensitive, it is even worse.
Doug was gone before the truck hit him. His loss will leave a gaping hole in our hearts and lives. I would ask that all who make comments know and understand the facts, otherwise shut up, you cannot possibly know unless you are a part of the investigation or a part of our family and/or friends of my brother. Condolences & prayers are welcome and appreciated. I am not sure why I find myself dumbfounded by the ignorance and idiocy that some people show. A life was lost, a tragic ACCIDENT occurred and we cannot get Doug back so all the asinine comments are just adding insult to an already difficult, painful tragedy in our lives. I will no longer receive random txt, emails or phone calls from him telling me that he loves me. his wife and 2 children will no longer have the comfort of his loving arms(he could give the best hugs) around them. A very big part of our lives is gone~ I ask that you please RESPECT my brother as well as his family and friends. Life as we know it ended July 6 2009.
I am appalled at some of the comments that are being made by people. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about, to Anonymous2 it WAS NOT Doug's fault, how idiotic can you get? As his sister, you notice I have NO problem saying who I am? I cannot believe the ignorance that has been expressed on this page. Andrea in Charlotte, ARE YOU SERIOUS? How to hit a deer and survive? At 70 MPH? WOW, for all who showed their ignorance, if you want to express your condolences, do so, otherwise keep your 'opinions' to yourself this can be applied to all idiotic comments made! My brother is a true hero that will be remembered by his kids, wife, family and friends. Thank you to ALL who showed their love, care and RESPECT for Doug and us[his family]. His laughter and love for life will forever be in our hearts and minds. He touched all by a simple smile, his laugh & his obvious care for all. He was the best as a Brother, Father, Husand, Uncle,Friend and Son. Ride Free...FTW I love you Doug
I would just like to say to the person who is saying the deer was already DONE!! WRONG!! it was not, he didn't hit the deer, the deer jumped out and hit him. the Semi driver was attempting to go around the motorcycle when he hit Doug... this is no ones fault! God wanted Doug home with him on Monday morning... there is nothing that could have been done to change that! He is a great man and loved by many!
My prayers and thoughts go out to Doug's family and the many men and women that worked with him. I feel fortunate that I was able to know Doug as he worked with my father at CCSD. He always had a smile on his face and seemed to enjoy life to the fullest. My heart aches for his children and his wife. He will be missed but his life will always be celebrated through the smiles and laughter of his children. Thank you for your service to the community Doug. You may be gone but not forgotten.
To Anonymous2; Unless you were there to evaulate the accident, keep your narrow-minded opinions to yourself. Pointing fingers is childish, much as you are. Keep in mind when posting stupid comments, family and friends are also reading this. Have some decency....
Did anyone know that the deer he hit was already dead in the road!!! So if that was the case it would have been his fault for hitting the deer. As for the semi driver you can see at the scene where he tried to stop and swerve to miss him but becuase you cannot stop that big of a truck in a moments notice he had no choice! It is just that a tragic accident! My thoughts and prayers to the family.
Hey Melinda..Are you High??? How stupid can you really be? Never mind, don't answer that, we can all figure it out. My thoughts and prayers goto Doug's family. So tragic! The good Lord above must have a different plan for him.
Seriously, I cant believe that people have nothing better to do with their time but to sit and debate how this accident happened and whos fault it is! There is a reason why its called an accident and I think people need to get it together. My thoughts are with Doug and his family.
This was a freak accident. It's a tragedy for all involved including the Alward family and the trucker and his family. Pointing fingers isn't going to change this horrible accident.
He was a wonderful caring officer and he will be greatly missed. Please pray for his family & friends.
Just before Thanksgiving 2008 I was stopped by this officer for speeding and didn't feel it was fair. So I met him at the SJ courthouse to fight the ticket. These officers come in on their days off for these situations and he came in with his little girl and in plain clothes. He gave me a break. I still had to pay the fine, but no moving violation. Told his adorable little girl that she "has a good daddy". I knew he was just doing his job. It saddens me to think of his wife and young children without him. So tragic.
I am a relative of the sister of Doug. I have to say some of these comments are just foul! I only met Doug once and I know his sister to be a great person. Please, pray for the family, don't blame and condemn people or animals. This was a horrible accident. That's all.