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Local Church Promotes Giving in Tough Economy Save Email Print
St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Lansing brought in a nationally noted author to encourage members to keep giving despite tough economic times.
Posted: 2:18 PM Nov 2, 2008
Last Updated: 2:18 PM Nov 2, 2008
Reporter: Tiffany Teasley
Email Address: Tiffany.Teasley@wilx.com

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Giving, it's the cornerstone of every congregation, but when times are tough, members can begin losing faith in their finances.

"With the economy the way it is, it's very difficult for people to think; well, I need to pay my own bills and write a check for the church," said John Nevin, Stewardship Chair at St. Paul Episcopal Church in Lansing.

The church is one of many trying to make sure Michigan's struggling economy doesn't trickle down into their ministry.

"This is the time of year when we begin to count up for a budget for 2009, and times are very difficult in Michigan, Lansing especially, the statewide economy will effect the church economy," said Rector Gordon Weller of St. Paul Episcopal Church.

So, pastors decided to bring in a well noted author to keep the spirit of giving alive in the church.

"If this economic crash has taught us anything, it is that it is an illusion for us to think that we can find any security in anything material," said Stephen McSwain, author of 'The Giving Myths.'

McSwain addressed the congregation Sunday to spread the word of generosity in the hopes of pumping up members to pay it forward in the church.

" I would want people to leave giving thought to that, and to make some decision to be more generous in the way they live, in sharing their resources and their abundance with the world," McSwain said.

"What we're trying to do here is show folks that the more you give the more you get," Nevin said.

Hoping and praying that members will keep on giving even though the economy keeps on taking.

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Posted by: Louise Location: Springport on Nov 5, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Fascinating that Rob from Colorado is taking such a strong interest in a Lansing area parish...and has even taken the time to review the numbers. Wow! This church must be important if it's gaining this level of national interest. You can bet I'll be checking it out and trying to learn more about what's happening in the Episcopal church today. It's been a long time but I'm curious.

Posted by: rob Location: colorado on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:33 PM
The parish has lost almost 30% in the past 5 years alone. It spent $93,200 from the endowment fund to pay bills. I note the parish is having a memorial service for the Mathew Shephard, the poor unfortunate homosexual who was murdered in Wyoming. Most likely the youth group will be participating. One wonders whether they sanitize the unfortunate young man's sexual promiscuity and drug abuse? The parish's decline mirrors the diocese. The diocese has lost 31.3% of membership in the past 10 years, lost 21% of ASA since 2000 and income is basically flat since 2000 (so decreasing in real dollars). One can look at the resolutions passed by the diocesan convention http://tinyurl.com/6y85oy . The diocesan resolutions were predominantly about homosexual rights to this or that. And the diocese's decline mirror the denomination which is now the fastest declining one. The denomination spent $2 million suing orthodox. Perhaps, it is time (or way past time) to ask questions of direction???

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  • Posted By: BeckyI feel that you are all insenstive bigots. Excuse the past years...you have to look at what this man meant to the country as a whole. When is the last time you heard of an artist that reached damn near everyone in the WORLD regardless of their race? Elvis didn't even have that much of an impact. He is a human and has his mistakes. Only God can judge him and to say such nasty things about this man after his passings is plain disgusting.
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