Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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Same ol' Teamsters. Trying to preserve obsolete jobs; no longer honestly representing their members; hopelessly out of touch with economic reality. This whole 'contest' is a smokescreen to hide the increasing ineptitude and irrelevance of the union. The only support unions get anymore is from the 'cool-aid drinkers' - like Frank and his brother. As for Elaine, where did you study economics? Governments and business can do whatever they want to deal with economic realities. Companies are in business to make a profit; governments are in business to serve the taxpayers. Neither exists to provide you with a job and 'free' benefits. If you don't like your City benefits package, find a job with better benefits. That's the great thing about a free market economy. You can put your talent out there and get the best job you can find. And if you can't compete, then you have to accept what you have - or improve your skills accordingly. Time to get real, people.
Lay them all off and let them pay for Cobra insurance.... See what that`s like! Whiners!
City Employees have been paying for and towards Health Care for years. Giving up wage increases is paying for Health Care too. Government and Business cannot keep shifting costs to their workers. Few of us live in subsidized housing, we are paying down mortgages or high rent. Most of us buy American cars too. Help us to continue to proudly work for the people who live in Lansing and to do our jobs for the daily visitors too. Thank you.
jeff, it was already on the news that the mayor and his staff pay for part of their health care premium and city employees don't. Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what is going on.
Virg will tell you that the executive staff is paying 5% of their healthcare. What he won't tell you is they all get 10% raises before they started paying. Virg takes care of his own and destroys whomever disagrees with him. He must be "Purged".
What a a thinker this Mayor is, He is not going to burden the citizens with the City's budget problems. Here I was thinking the citizens were vested in this process somehow, guess not. Better keep the citizens opinion out and do what the Mayor wants. What a "Purge".
Sad, whats sad is people racing to the bottom of the economic ladder. Instead of draggin people down to the bottom, try proping yourself up. City employees have healthcare, good for them, everyone should have it, and I only vote for people who think that way. So as for Virg, purge him! I hope the residents have more smarts then to believe media campain put out by the administration. Its the same story every year, then afterwards the Mayor goes shoppin, those who dont learn from history are bound to repeat it.
let the mayor and his staff set the example for all the city workers, their no one special
Sad to me that the city employees are selfish to understand they still have insurance. What about the individuals who do not have insurance, or the individuals who are very under insured, but do not have a job that is willing to help with health insurance. I pay way above 5% of my health care costs. Sad that employees do not look at the big picture and see what else they have.