Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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great...now local news is blowing all this out of proportion...but I agree with ole Greg though...if people are being stupid with it there needs to at least be limitations but a ban is ridiculous...it's all about moderation people DON'T BE STUPID!
Where can I buy salvia in Warren, Michigan area retail stores?
I have started a forum for the people of Michigan to learn more about Salvia divinorum. It's at www.MichiganSalvia.com and also has the current legal status
If your looking for salvia in michigan, i got some from stairway to heaven in ann arbor michigan. You must be 18 to buy. Its an nice alternative drug if your on probation
i need to know weather there is a ban or if salvia is controlled in the state of minnisota, any info would be helpfull. Thanx
It's ridiculous that they are considering banning something with no known ill effects. It's nothing like LSD, and lasts only minutes compared to hours. Ridiculous. I run a list of states that currently have Salvia legal and it's getting harder and harder to maintain. Ugh.
I love it, the illiterate asses out here in Lansing, got it taken away from the only store I knew of that sold it. I am on a search to find.
In CA we just passed a ban on sales to minors. This is the best way to keep salvia out of the hands of those most likely to abuse this plant. Outright ban means another black market source of income for cartels & LESS ability to control its potential detrimental effects by law enforcement. This would also give the zealots who are pushing this ban trying to appear 'tough on drugs' a compromise. Everything we know about salvia suggests that an adult who takes the proper common-sense precautions (sober sitter, doesnt drive)will have a safe experience.Criminalizing such behavior has led to a failed war on drugs, and many instances where the punishment is far more dangerous than the crime. Having been a victim of a paramilitary raid on our house bc of a false-informant who lied to police claiming we had 'kilos' of marijuana, I know what a barbarous policy prohibition is. A govt serious about drug abuse would do more to educate, address underlying causes & seek to rehabilitate,not incarcerate
Salvia Divinorum is a quick way to get a legal high. the side effects vary. ive tried it a number of times and havent had a "bad" experience with it, just a temporary high body temperature and some uncontrollable laughter. however, it is a drug, and should be scheduled as such. i dont agree with the way it is used, however just like any other hallucinogenic, if you ban one, a new one will show up. it tastes nasty, and smells worse. the effects are very short lived (usually between 10-15 minutes at the most). its not wise to do by yourself, but i think alot of people overstate the effects. its usage was started with indians (of varying cultures) using it to get a closer connection with the spirits and just to get that out of body experience (which, unfortunately works). its not as bad as alot of the other drugs available, but the effects can hang with the best of anything you can find illegaly. i agree on the reclassification, but not with the ban
Its been around for years. When recent medical research suggested that it could be used in substance abuse and alcohol treatment, there was a big push to ban it. Sak's one of the bill's sponsers, and he gets his money mostly from the alcohol lobby. Its that way in every state. The drug has also shown great promise in the treatment of Alzheimers and Schizophrenia. This drug isnt addictive, isnt toxic and isnt fun. There's simply no reason to criminalize this drug and throw out 10 years of medical research.
Too bad! MOST users will NEVER compare Salvia to LSD or mushrooms, there are just too many differences to compare.
Wow i'm o it! Ban salvia!
Yes. Ban another plant. God obviously made a mistake when he created these. We know better than God what is good for us! Funny but true story: we grew salvia divninium in my Kindergarten class as a science project.