What's the Catch?
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Updated: 8:51 AM May 24, 2005
What's the Catch?
If it looks too good to be true, chances are it is. We took to the streets, the phones, and the Internet to find out what's the catch?
Posted: 12:15 AM May 24, 2005
Reporter: Beth Shayne
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In this day and age, we’re inundated with deals and bargains, so much so we rarely have time to find out if we’re making the right assumption or missing that rare opportunity.

You see them on billboards, at each commercial break, and probably every time you check your email. The kind of ads we're talking about promise a lot: they rarely explain very much at all.

It’s not that the offer isn’t technically true, just that there are conditions, exceptions, or maybe you’ll just really have to work for it.

Free I-POD?

For example, we tried for a free I-pod. This website asked us to sign up for a free sample. It wasn't exactly free, we found, but we paid the shipping cost anyway. That’s where we quit—this free I-pod website asked next that we commit to another free offer and then, get five friends to do what we’d just done.

EXTRA CASH?

If you’re a Lugnuts regular, you’ve probably returned to your car to find this deal. You can find it in many different forms, all of them promising extra cash to work for a health and fitness group. We called. Executives never called us back, but an associate did send us to the Web site, www.symmetrydirect.com. The local companies called Michigan Premiere League. The website calls it Symmetry Direct and explains their plan: You buy in for a minimum of $149, sell health products, and bring more sellers into their program. Pony up, accept the risk, and it could be lucrative.

PROVEN MONEY MAKER?

We tried another big bucks promise listed in the classifieds. It called it a "proven money maker" to help us earn $225K per year. Calling the listed number took us to a seller in California. He asked the questions about us and what we'd do to make that much money. He explained he "couldn't" answer mine.

On a conference call with his company Liberty League, we did learn how I could buy in to their program. Their product—a finance guide--would cost me $1,500 dollars. Like the local job, we’d become an associate, and sell their program to others. Each sale would net us $1,000 of our customers $1,500 buy-in. They assured me it's not illegal: "A pyramid scheme is illegal and it's not," the associate, Kevin Shayne, said.

MINGUN MASSAGE?

On the door of a store called Mingun in Frandor Shopping Center in Lansing it offers "Free Therapeutic Massage." We cashed in on the deal. It was a medical massage on the Mingun bed. It was not the comfortable experience we expected, but they promise healing results. And they mean "free": We could get 89 more massages for free.

After that, they’re hoping we'd buy the massage bed. It costs $3,000.

OTHER DEALS YOU SEE SIGNS FOR IN OUR REPORT

"Free 20 oz.":..with a purchase of another free 20 oz.
"Stop Smoking in 44 minutes": Get hypnotized to curb the habit. Dr. Jack Jesse will do it for 90 minutes in his office off Aurelius Road.
"Free Phone":...with a 2 year agreement.
"Free Rent":..a common sign you'll see in an apartment complex. It means one month free rent, and the cost is often distributed over the rest of the months for your trouble.

Check out this Web site for tips on how not to be scammed by an infomercial. http://www.infomercialscams.com/scamorder.htm.

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  • Posted By: I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
  • Posted By: JakeYou know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
  • Posted By: Sandii have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately. Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
  • Posted By: The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
  • Posted By: sick and tiredput em back on the boat
  • Posted By: LegallyRadBetween venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
  • Posted By: GusDoesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
  • Posted By: concernedThey need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
  • Posted By: ChrisI've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
  • Posted By: Concerned CitizenThis is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
  • Posted By: Frustrated!!!I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
  • Posted By: TracyHow much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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