Police Investigate Shooting at Lansing Night Spot
- Posted By: : I dont think we can blame Verg or the Police. It's the responsibility of the owner and the people that frequent that establishment. I know from living and growing up in the South Lansing area, this has always been a problem. I say....SHUT IT DOWN! Blame the irresponsible people that can not control themselves, not the Mayor or Police!!!! Take responsiblity in your own actions!!!!!
- Posted By: Jake: You know it is easy to sit back and say close the club down you don't have any money invested,I do not think this type of crowd would be bad if the bar would bar them for life if they started a fight.I know it is hard to tell who's who because they all look the same start taking pictures of every one that goes into the club give them a membership card with photo no one gets in unless they have a membership,and if they start any kind of problems pull thier membership.To me this would be a start. There are a lot of good people out there that don't deserve to get punished for the actions of a few.The mayor and the little beady eyed city attorney need to think about the other club owners thoughts on this, the council is more like do what I say council rather do for the people.
- Posted By: Sandi: i have spent my share of time going to the bars, however, the Venue is a crime not a bar. They were supose to hire additional security. With all the unemployment why didn't they have at least 2 or 3 guys out there patroling the parking lot at 2 a.m.? They know exactly what their patrons are like. They should have had patrols outside weeks ago. I think the Venue should be closed down, and I like the idea of a good samaritan law,if you see a crime and don't report it, you can go to jail. Lots of people had their pictures on the video lately.
Anyone who goes to a bar like the Venue and thinks even one fight in the parking lot is OK has a problem, and should stay away from the bars. This constant fighting is outragous. What are we waiting for? Someone to be killed?
- Posted By: : The city can pass a good samaritan law in which a person can serve two days in jail for not reporting a crime. It might scare some of these people into witnessing.
- Posted By: sick and tired: put em back on the boat
- Posted By: LegallyRad: Between venue and x-cel the cops are driving like a tennis match from north to south. Everytime there is an incident at a hip-hop club they should have to serve 3 weekends playing nothing but classic rock, country and bluegrass.
- Posted By: Gus: Doesn't surprise me that the Lansing Police couldnt find a suspect or a victim without some outside help. With the leadership that they have with Virg "Little Man" Bernero and Mark "I am an IDIOT" Alley, it is a wonder that they can find their car keys. As for the VENUE, the violence at that location hasn't changed since the city shut down the last night club that was there. Great job Lansing!
- Posted By: concerned: They need to shut down the Venue. Obviously the crowd that is drawn to the Venue is the same that use to frequent the Temple CLub and the LA globe. Unfortunately people do not know how to act and trouble follows these type of establishments. It is waste of resources. SHUT IT DOWN
- Posted By: Chris: I've been to probably close to 100 heavy metal concerts and clubs/events over the years, never a shooting. Their is a completely different mind set with this Venue crowd and the mentality and music it supports.
- Posted By: Concerned Citizen: This is the 3rd shooting at this club since it opened earlier this year. Since South Lansing and Holt is not known for this type of behavior, I can only surmise that the people that frequent this establishment are the problem. I think the time has come to close this place down and keep these hoodlums out out of our community!
- Posted By: Frustrated!!!: I have been a patron of the Venue since it first opened and the "stories" that the MEDIA is hyping up is just that STORIES!!!! Readers need to learn to differentiate the facts from myths...I also attended the party this past saturday night and there were not "several" fights as the NEWS 10 has advised us!!! Heck they weren't even there, but I guess you gotta keep your job somehow!!! I am so so tired of the media making a mountain out of a molehill...and furthermore, from what we could see the perpetrator was directly in front of the police...so you do the math!!! It appears to me that the Venue security do their job to get the patrons out safely, and then it would also appear to me that the police department would attempt to be "proactive" opposed to "reactive"...I have witnessed them sit across the street at Lowe's and do "absolutely nothing" to assist the Venue security when "occurences" do happen in the parking lot of Mark Realty...not the parking lot of the Venue Live!!!!
- Posted By: Tracy: How much violent crime has to happen at this club in order to shut it down? I understand it's someone's business and source of income, but come on... there's got to be some responsibility taken by the owner to protect the public and law-abiding patrons. I'm sure the owner is aware of the riff-raff coming in; use your right as the owner to deny service.
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Still watching this garbage case and trial. How dare Jackson County throw stones. They can't even take care of a stray dog and they accuse someone of not taking care of horses. Look into the reputation of the dogcatchers WILX
This suprises anyone, why? The entire Jackson county system is corrupt. A federal justice department investigation just keeps getting closer to becoming a reality with every assinine move these so called leaders make. The city police chief probe certainly gets the ball rolling. Get rid of all of them and start over.
I was one of the ones duped by Animal Control. I bought a horse that is NOT what AC said it was! I thought I was buying something completely different. I introduced myself to Matt at the auction. My gut tells me that this man did NOT do what they said. I believe this simply because he was at the auction and not in hiding. I told him so! If he had done this, he surely wouldn't have shown up to an auction with thousands of people with a trophy belt buckle with his name on it for everyone to see! That's just my opinion.
lets hope these horses got good loving homes.and there care will be continued and they will live out a long good life.no one should of abused these animals in the first place,and thoes that did should rot in jail for life.why have animals if you don't choose to care for them in the right ways.but the condition of the animals should of been noticed way before it was.people need to quit turning there head about abuse of kids and animals.laws need to be made stricter.considering the pictures of these animals,it was negligt and abuse and they should never get animals back or be allowed to have animals again.if they were to poor to keep these animals in good shape they should of sold them.way before they became starved ect.or gave them to good homes.there is NO excuse for the condition of the animals.god gave us animals to help man with many things,for our compaigns,to admire,to love.this was not only a bad thing against the animals but a act agaist god.
Regardless of what the defendants did or did not do, Animal Control should be held criminally negligent for the lack of care to the horses. Our tax dollars went to fund this whole endeavor, which now seems to have spiraled out of control. The horses deserved better than the treatment they got once they were "rescued". I am outraged by this whole thing.
Wonder what will happen if the owners of the horses are found to be not negligent; will the owners be reimbursed? I thought that they would have at least had to go to court first and have a court ruling before the horses were sold.
Sad. Reading everything, it makes me want to stay CLEAR of Jackson County. Even to drive through. Too much power, not enough checks and balances. I thought this country was based on that?
Who polices the Animal Control? We all hope that they don't need policing but it seems that in this case they do. Is anything going to be done about it?
J.C.A.C. I feel was overwhelmed with the whole operation and did NOTHING to improve the conditions or care for the horses. The laws regarding equine laws need to be written to protect not only the animals, but the owners as well. To keep this same situation from happening to someone else!!!
I hope the Animal control gets a complete overhaul in the wake of this trial. It seems they are out of control in not only Jackson County but other surrounding counties as well. I don't know where the checks and balances are, but it seems like they've just gone out the window. www.glhorsetruth.com
Wow, Jackson Animal Control neglected horses that they rescued?? Will they get charged for this abuse?!? Seems hard to belive...
Horses at the prior 3 auctions were skinny, full of worms, hooves needing care... AFTER six months with animal control! Photo evidence at turn3vsjcac.blogspot.com
Actually they only auctioned 73, Lelenau Horse Rescue was given 11 horses for un-known reasons, there is a memo from JCAC stating that! I wonder what condition those 11 are in seen how the seized horses are in worse condition than before!